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LOCH: There are external stressors and external anxieties and things in the world that impinge or create anxiety or fear. Can you relate that to what you're talking about? So, someone does something like stubbed their toe and they're feeling pain, or they go on a date and then they get rejected at the end, and they're suffering. I find that it's really helpful for my audience to work with concrete examples when we're having these big abstract ideas. I suspect we're going to spend the rest of our time unpacking what you've just said. And so that's a little beginning summary.
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But we don't know how to intentionally do it often, and how to remain there. So, it's a bigger, higher, wider, deeper, more spacious, and pervasive, subtler dimension of consciousness that everyone's tasted. And it's trying to survive almost within our body as almost a separate entity, rather than being this other option, which is awakening from that to this other dimension of consciousness - awake consciousness or true nature, or there's a lot of words that are used in different traditions - but that there's another level of mind and another type of self, from self to Self, or from what's called conceptual mind to non-conceptual mind, or awake consciousness that's prior to thought that then can use thought as a tool but isn't limited to thought and isn't limited to ego identity even though it includes ego function. Who's the sufferer? Who's suffering? Or, if we use the language of mind, we could say, what level of mind are we aware from? Just to riff with a little language of self, if the problem from this awakening point of view is that what we're awakening from is this limited small sense of self, which we might call ego identity, or managing self, or rational doer, and this sense of organizing constellation of consciousness can be summarized pretty well as “I think, therefore I am,” which is just a thought-based self-referencing feeling that then feels like it's us. SPENCER: Can you give some examples of that? Because maybe people think, “Oh, that's a part of suffering.” But they may not understand or see how that could be a sort of suffering itself or all suffering. This word is often translated as "perpetual dissatisfaction." So, it's really almost like existential anxiety. And so, what is suffering? The definition of suffering used in wisdom traditions, particularly in Buddhism and Asian traditions, is called Dukkha. LOCH: It was great that you began with the kind of negation, which is awakening’s goal is to go to the root of suffering, to heal suffering. SPENCER: Yeah, so let's jump right into it. I've been interested in it - as we all are as a side part of our life - but I've made it my main project, and it's been fun. That's something I've been trying to figure out.
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SPENCER: Today we're going to talk about what I think is one of the most important topics, which is how do we free ourselves from suffering? How do we achieve well-being? It's hard to think of a more important topic than that. In this episode, Spencer speaks with Loch Kelly about awakening, consciousness, and concentration. I'm Josh Castle, the producer of the podcast, and I'm so glad you joined us today.


JOSH: Hello and welcome to Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg, the podcast about ideas that matter.

Please go to /em to find more information and free practices. Loch lives in upstate New York with his wife Paige and their cat Duffy. He teaches the advanced-yet-simple nondual pointers and direct methods of Effortless Mindfulness, informed by psychology and social justice. He is known for his warm sense of humor and his trust that awakening is the next natural stage of development.

Loch is dedicated to reducing suffering and supporting people to live from open-hearted awareness. Loch has collaborated with neuroscientists at Yale, UPenn, and NYU in the study of how awareness training can enhance compassion and wellbeing. Loch graduated from Columbia University and received a fellowship to study in Sri Lanka, India, and Nepal. He is the founder of the nonprofit Effortless Mindfulness Institute and has worked in community mental health, established homeless shelters, and counseled family members of 9/11 victims. Loch Kelly, M.Div., LCSW is an award-winning author, licensed psychotherapist, and recognized leader in the field of meditation and awakening. What is "awakening"? What is a "stateless" state? What is nonduality? Why and how do some spiritual practitioners experience a dissolution of their sense of self? Do these altered or enlightened states require thousands of hours of practice to achieve, or are they always inside us, waiting to be noticed and accessed at any time? Can these states be accessed through a variety of paths and methods? Is there a certain kind of person that does better or worse at achieving these states?
